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It's based on the PO messages format (is that somehow related to ICU?) but looks pretty great.</p>\n\n<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"6\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>fuzzy matching for localization</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>I'm not familiar with the term in this context, you mean keeping the English version in the code base (instead of a generic code like <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> ?)</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":7},{"id":3658,"post_number":8,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":7,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":12,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":216,"score":63.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"http://meta.discourse.org/t/what-i-love-about-wordpress-plugins/5697","internal":true,"reflection":true,"title":"What I love about WordPress plugins","clicks":7}],"cooked":"<p>ICU Message format is basically Gettext on steroids, Gettext has been around for so many years and actually works pretty well, being super prevalent in Linux. </p>\n\n<p>Trouble is you need a fuzzy matcher for translators if you are going to store stuff like <code>mf.compile( 'This is a message.' )</code> in source, one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":8},{"id":3660,"post_number":9,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:14:12-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:18:09-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":8,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":11,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":216,"score":63.75,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"8\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>Yeah, that's why I've always been a friend of <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> placeholders, until I asked the SO question linked above. 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Maybe that's not the case right now as new stuff is being checked in pretty much every couple of hours, but in the long run, it'll be overwhelmingly true.</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":9},{"id":3667,"post_number":10,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":9,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":206,"score":61.6,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Tim Stone","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Hmm...You could theoretically also build something into the development process that would monitor changes to the English locale file and make a translator-friendly list of changes between versions.</p>","read":false,"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3981cd271c302f5cba628c6b6d2b32ee.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":9,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":10},{"id":3673,"post_number":11,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":10,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":202,"score":60.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","reply_to_user":{"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":11},{"id":3675,"post_number":12,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:33:38-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:34:39-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":11,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":9,"incoming_link_count":1,"reads":203,"score":66.05,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"11\" data-topic=\"280\" data-full=\"true\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>As said, I'd look into whether WP's tools can't be reused for this with some tweaking. 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Looking sexy. <em>droool</em></p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":15},{"id":3982,"post_number":16,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T15:52:22-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T15:52:22-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":15,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":180,"score":56.4,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Eric Kidd","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"15\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  pekka\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>Ohhh. 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